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Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
Mexico is doomed to be third world forever. Too much entrenched corruption. Plus, the poor won't stand up for their rights. The white elites in Mexico have managed to hold on to all of their power and assets, and they'll never give them up. Meanwhile, the rest of the country...the Mestizo majority, are content to be ruled by the white elites. In that situation, nothing will change.
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
because of cartels and mafias corrupting the system, and corrupt leaders. it is sad to see all their hard work and efforts go in vain to 'criminals'.
how to improve? raise your children not to be like the ones fucking mexico. two wrongs dont make a right metaphorically. but it todays standards , which are fked, it even things out a bit.
where murder is against the law, but its okay to legally execute people.. brilliant
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
I think the same as posted before, the drug cartels. There only bennifetting few select people. Now i do not have the master plan to stop this but it is common knowlledge of supply and demand. America wants drugs and drugs can be brought in through Mexico. The cartels want that money so they are there to fill the wants. America's drug problem in realtiy has led to Mexico's problem.
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
Originally Posted by desertdetroiter
Mexico is doomed to be third world forever. Too much entrenched corruption. Plus, the poor won't stand up for their rights. The white elites in Mexico have managed to hold on to all of their power and assets, and they'll never give them up. Meanwhile, the rest of the country...the Mestizo majority, are content to be ruled by the white elites. In that situation, nothing will change.
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
Originally Posted by EpioN
Hmmmmmm
I would say we could start with a few practical solutions. First, the U.S. needs to end it's "War On Drugs" immediately, after that is done, countries like Mexico and Jamaica can then internally profit on their Cannabis / Hemp crops, greatly reduce black market practices and membership, and ultimately snatch the profit incentive right out of the hands of the Cartels rendering them broke and ineffective. Doing this will also purge criminals from official and military ranks.
Second, Mexico needs to pull out of most international institutions like NAFTA, and the IMF. Mexico needs to properly coin it's own money and control it while setting enough regulation to let some room for the country to prosper in. Pretty much, Mexico needs to depend only on itself, but to do that , it needs to remove the corruption barrier and crutches. It's already got the resources, and a hungry for work kinda' people.
But what Mexico really needs is......a brown power structure.
Interesting take on the matter. I do agree that drugs and free trade agreements only hurt Mexico in the long run. But what I'd really like to learn more about is this so-called brown power structure. Elaborate.
Also, what is your stance on Mexico's political parties: PRI and PAN? Mario Vargas Llosa once said that Mexico had obtained the perfect dictatorship, under the PRI becase they had held political power for decades.
Originally Posted by jstcauz
because of cartels and mafias corrupting the system, and corrupt leaders. it is sad to see all their hard work and efforts go in vain to 'criminals'.
how to improve? raise your children not to be like the ones fucking mexico. two wrongs dont make a right metaphorically. but it todays standards , which are fked, it even things out a bit.
where murder is against the law, but its okay to legally execute people.. brilliant
We're not talking about raising children here in the states. We're talking about improving Mexico's class status as a whole. I want to see the country improve and the people to live comfortable lives like we do here in the US and in other countries like Denmark, Canada and Japan. I'd like to see the level of poverty reduced, crime rates to go down and see more opportunities for Mexicans in the future, especially for the Natives. I'd like to see Mexicans as a whole more self-reliant and less dependent on other nations.
Originally Posted by CsunAztek
Mexico isnt 3rd world anymore its considered a 2nd world nation, its economy is top 10-13 in the world depending on whose list you look at.
Second world nations are communist. Mexico is no longer third world, but developing, that is past third world status but not quite first world yet. The last time I checked, Mexico's GFP was ranked about 11 worldwide.
Originally Posted by Devon707
I think the same as posted before, the drug cartels. There only bennifetting few select people. Now i do not have the master plan to stop this but it is common knowlledge of supply and demand. America wants drugs and drugs can be brought in through Mexico. The cartels want that money so they are there to fill the wants. America's drug problem in realtiy has led to Mexico's problem.
So you think if we solve this problem, it will also reduce corruption and thus we might possibly see a more developed Mexico in the next, say, 50 years?
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
Originally Posted by Vain
Who said the elites were all white?
Well they like to think of themselves as white. The majority of latin americans no matter their skin color or features either call themselves European or part European. Technically speaking they probably all have SOME European blood in them somewhere within the last 128 generations. If you believe most of the theories of humanities existence then technically we are all distantly related. Infact a recent nat geo show I watched said we are all 99.9% related to each other. So not as much difference as people would sometimes like to think.
Mexico's elite consider themselves "white" it is more of a status symbol really instead of a actual ethnicity. "White" at one point meant White Anglo Saxon Protestestant but it has come to mean all of Europe as well as the Middle East and North Africa and sometimes even India and Asian and people are now saying some of the existing tribes of Ameridians are "white" so "white" has come to mean practically anyone who doesn't run around with a spear and some straw covering their privates. Groups that are well off have come to be considered "white" in america. Carlos Slim the 3rd richest person in the world and the richest Mexican is of Lebanese descent on both his mother and father's side so he is Arab but actually considered "white" even though Arab is a semetic group. Although now adays even though Arabs are a semetic group the only group we actually consider semetic are the Jews since Arabs don't want to be considered apart of the same ethnic group as Jews.
Everything is so complicated. Asians are now considered "whites" since so many of them now attend UC Berkeley. 42% of undergraduates are Asian and the college is considered "pearly white" because since Asians have made it they are now instantly considered "white" totally ridiculous classifications we have here in America and abroad.
We are not arrogant enough to believe we are all powerful and we are willing to learn and adapt. When we came to America we merged with the people and willingly adopted some of the beliefs of the people living their if the beliefs were the best thing for our combined people.
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
It is a known fact that the Mexican royal family are descended from Spanish as well as Mexica nobility. As for the Mexican elites being white, I think dd was specifically referring to the wealthy criollos there. I don't think someone who is descended from the Middle East would consider themselves criollo.
Europeans, Middle Easterners and certain groups of South Asians would be considered Caucasian (bone structure). It's funny because Caucasian is used everywhere outside of the US to describe people from The Caucasus. What I also find ridiculous is that "white/non hispanic" group on test surveys. Same thing with how they group Asians and Pacific Islanders together. Our racial/ethnic categories are ridiculous.
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
Originally Posted by Vain
It is a known fact that the Mexican royal family are descended from Spanish as well as Mexica nobility. As for the Mexican elites being white, I think dd was specifically referring to the wealthy criollos there. I don't think someone who is descended from the Middle East would consider themselves criollo.
Europeans, Middle Easterners and certain groups of South Asians would be considered Caucasian (bone structure). It's funny because Caucasian is used everywhere outside of the US to describe people from The Caucasus. What I also find ridiculous is that "white/non hispanic" group on test surveys. Same thing with how they group Asians and Pacific Islanders together. Our racial/ethnic categories are ridiculous.
Totally agree.
white non hispanic makes no sense. If you give people specific categories and they consider themselves a certain category then why the hell would you exclude them from that category because they come from a hispanic origins?!? German is the largest ancestry in America and during the 1900s their were a good number of Germans from Latin America and yet we don't consider them apart of white non hispanic. Nor the Italians from Latin America. The categories are all mixed up.
Asian and Pacific Islanders category is insane. You should see the fight over UC Berkeley. People are mad because UC is pearly white lol. 46% are "Asian" half of that number are Chinese then Korean then East Indian/Pakistani then filipino and japanese. Granted Korean Chinese and Japanese have a lot of common genetics and cultural similarities but they are definetly different ethnic groups and Japanese and Chinese still have a hard time working together after what happened during WW2. Filipinos and East India though is what really boggles my mind. They both have radically different cultures and genetics from the other Asian groups mentioned and yet people are flipping out about diversity. If you really broke it down it would probably be closer to 30% Chinese/Korean/Japanese and 26% East Indian/Pakistani/Filipino which sounds much more diverse. UC Bereley has become more diverse since dropped racial quota stuff it had. Latinos and Blacks are underrepresented but their isn't much we can do about that since Chinese are genetically superior in math and kung fu(haha no Chinese are here to get angry at me for that ) I think Latinos will be better respresented in a decade since the Latinos have only started to become prosperous recently.
What Mexican Royal Family are you talking about? I tried looking it up and only some photgraphers who call themselves a royal family came up and a Austrian Royal Family given to Mexico by Napaleon the midget.
We are not arrogant enough to believe we are all powerful and we are willing to learn and adapt. When we came to America we merged with the people and willingly adopted some of the beliefs of the people living their if the beliefs were the best thing for our combined people.
Last edited by Latin Knight : 08-16-2009 at 01:12 PM.
Re: How can Mexico improve it's third world status?
) I think Latinos will be better respresented in a decade since the Latinos have only started to become prosperous recently.
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