Socialism vs Capitalism

[Akbar]

Originally Posted by Vain

Not true. Countries all over the world have socialist economies. Sweden is a democratic welfare state, Norway's GDP comes from the state sector, and Singapore provides housing, education, health services, and public transportation through the state. Can socialism solve the problems of every person living in a socialist country? No. But what these countries have done is reduce that number by a large margin.

http://boards.brownpride.com/showpos...84&postcount=9

nice try.

[Vain]

Akbar fail.

[Akbar]

Originally Posted by Vain

Akbar fail.

that was a clever comeback...

your argument doesn't hold water since both the countries that you named has capitalism mixed in with it.If that were the case we might as well call the u.s. a socialist country.jeez.

[Crazy1]

Originally Posted by Akbar

really,both countries implement equal distribution of wealth and have eliminated private property and the exploitative ruling class?

Do you sincerely believe you will eliminate classes? There will always be rich people and poor people. Even in a poor society.

Eliminate private property? Never gonna happen.

It's true socialists are brain fucked. That's enough brain cells wasted over a topic.

Socialists in name only(since they reap and live in a capitalist society) can chase their unicorn of a socialist utopia. I'll just laugh.

[Vain]

Originally Posted by Akbar

Can't compare both economic systems since socialism has never been implemented.But what we do know is that capitalism has proven itself unable to solve the problems of the people living under it.

If you wanted to talk about socialist countries then you should have just said so. I was naming countries that have socialist economies in practice. Government wise-, Norway and Sweden are parliament democracies while Singapore is a republic.

[Akbar]

Originally Posted by Crazy1

Do you sincerely believe you will eliminate classes? There will always be rich people and poor people. Even in a poor society.

Eliminate private property? Never gonna happen.

It's true socialists are brain fucked. That's enough brain cells wasted over a topic.

Socialists in name only(since they reap and live in a capitalist society) can chase their unicorn of a socialist utopia. I'll just laugh.

bottom line is that socialism has never been implemented so you can't compare the both.

[Latin Knight]

Originally Posted by Vain

Not true. Countries all over the world have socialist economies. Sweden is a democratic welfare state, Norway's GDP comes from the state sector, and Singapore provides housing, education, health services, and public transportation through the state. Can socialism solve the problems of every person living in a socialist country? No. But what these countries have done is reduce that number by a large margin.

Do you think any of those 3 countries would be able to hold their own without help from countries that have Capitalism or a hybrid of Socialism/Capitalism?


Norway and Sweden leech off the power and protection of Germany, France, and UK.

Singapore gets it's protection from China because of it's high Han population. Although eventually China will probably absorb Singapore.

Most of the countries that have Socialist economic systems are even less self sufficient then Capitalist systems. And when Capitalist systems fail it is usually a product of naive idiots trying to do something radical to "help" the system. Like trying to give everyone a home when some people simply can't afford a home. It sounds nice on paper but when someone can't afford it giving them a home only to have them be forced to pay high bills or live on the streets seems like cruel and unusual punishment.

To Akbar,

Also about a Socialist Government System. Who exactly would redistribute the wealth? What about the people who disagree with the person who redistributes the wealth? Will the person who the redistributes wealth give the people who he disagrees with equal wealth as to those he agrees with? You will never get a Government where people would willingly give the same amount of money and property to those they disagree with as those they agree with.

Also what about the people who do more work then me? What about the people who do less work then me? Will we all get the same amount even if I work harder then someone else? Why would I continue to work hard if I know I won't get paid more for it?

[Akbar]

Originally Posted by Latin Knight

Do you think any of those 3 countries would be able to hold their own without help from countries that have Capitalism or a hybrid of Socialism/Capitalism?


Norway and Sweden leech off the power and protection of Germany, France, and UK.

Singapore gets it's protection from China because of it's high Han population. Although eventually China will probably absorb Singapore.

Most of the countries that have Socialist economic systems are even less self sufficient then Capitalist systems. And when Capitalist systems fail it is usually a product of naive idiots trying to do something radical to "help" the system. Like trying to give everyone a home when some people simply can't afford a home. It sounds nice on paper but when someone can't afford it giving them a home only to have them be forced to pay high bills or live on the streets seems like cruel and unusual punishment.

To Akbar,

Also about a Socialist Government System. Who exactly would redistribute the wealth? What about the people who disagree with the person who redistributes the wealth? Will the person who the redistributes wealth give the people who he disagrees with equal wealth as to those he agrees with? You will never get a Government where people would willingly give the same amount of money and property to those they disagree with as those they agree with.

Also what about the people who do more work then me? What about the people who do less work then me? Will we all get the same amount even if I work harder then someone else? Why would I continue to work hard if I know I won't get paid more for it?

Why are you asking me these questions?

[Latin Knight]

Originally Posted by Akbar

Why are you asking me these questions?

You seem to be the only one here who seems to think Socialism is a good form of government.

[northwestmexican]

fuck this shit ive decided that capitalism is fine
people can make it as long as they are responsible enough


ive realized corporatism is the real issue.